tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post133755705705080587..comments2023-10-23T10:15:44.618-05:00Comments on The Real Shliach: SalariedJust like a guyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-1675927709463998472011-02-16T07:54:14.441-06:002011-02-16T07:54:14.441-06:00Or don't cheat and don't get caught.Or don't cheat and don't get caught.I lived in Williamsburg and don't work and scamming the gov't is my full-time jobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-55088644169708959552011-02-15T22:29:47.146-06:002011-02-15T22:29:47.146-06:00Menashe: How comforting.Menashe: How comforting.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-74962355406211196492011-02-15T21:34:56.234-06:002011-02-15T21:34:56.234-06:00Emunah is important in accounting. As in play game...Emunah is important in accounting. As in play games with the rules and pray you don't get audited.Menashehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16593117409267020021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-55108020679322837302011-02-14T17:47:54.916-06:002011-02-14T17:47:54.916-06:00you have a good point.you have a good point.Once again, religious claims retreat to the haven of non-falsifiabilitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-27010078139903269152011-02-14T15:57:27.269-06:002011-02-14T15:57:27.269-06:00"Once again, religious claims retreat to the ..."Once again, religious claims retreat to the haven of non-falsifiability said...<br />In other words, things are very complicated, and all we have is hard-to-interpret anecdotal evidence, so we can claim whatever we want."<br /><br />The point being contended is what is the opinion of the Rebbeim of Lubavitch. That point is not a non-falsifiable claim.Feivel ben Mishaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619610462399086395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-78901491345427775212011-02-13T18:31:59.458-06:002011-02-13T18:31:59.458-06:00Religion is the opium of the masses.Religion is the opium of the masses.The moon is made of cheesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-59635361840595077472011-02-13T16:34:58.098-06:002011-02-13T16:34:58.098-06:00In other words, things are very complicated, and a...In other words, things are very complicated, and all we have is hard-to-interpret anecdotal evidence, so we can claim whatever we want.Once again, religious claims retreat to the haven of non-falsifiabilitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-51274445257920863162011-02-13T11:41:19.060-06:002011-02-13T11:41:19.060-06:00shtika k'hoda
"And all the many, many pe...shtika k'hoda<br /><br />"And all the many, many people in Lubavitch with lots of negative money simply didn't have enough faith."<br /><br />Or have negative money because of some other set of factors. The economic situation is not one dimensional depending solely on education.Feivel ben Mishaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619610462399086395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-35305166357077911112011-02-11T11:10:35.654-06:002011-02-11T11:10:35.654-06:00Why does this sound so much like the "normal&...Why does this sound so much like the "normal" yeshiva world?Modeh B'Miktsasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-63783769858326087882011-02-10T22:01:15.017-06:002011-02-10T22:01:15.017-06:00Says the man becoming a CPA...Says the man becoming a CPA...Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-8614906118416649322011-02-10T21:15:27.072-06:002011-02-10T21:15:27.072-06:00Maybe it really is that simple.Maybe it really is that simple.Menashehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16593117409267020021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-46650017163031551892011-02-10T20:14:40.093-06:002011-02-10T20:14:40.093-06:00And all the many, many people in Lubavitch with lo...And all the many, many people in Lubavitch with lots of negative money simply didn't have enough faith.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-17367361618254840502011-02-10T13:56:03.279-06:002011-02-10T13:56:03.279-06:00and those who think otherwise are meraglim who dou...and those who think otherwise are meraglim who doubt moshe rabeinucalebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-32935122973868335242011-02-10T13:52:16.545-06:002011-02-10T13:52:16.545-06:00"The purpose of this post... but rather to sa..."The purpose of this post... but rather to say that wishful thinking is no substitute for actual education"<br /><br />That can either be interpreted that you see a need for change in the yeshiva system or you believe bochurim need a supplementary education. <br /><br />Both of those claims I addressed.<br /><br />Furthermore as for you new claim that "bochurim should have a plan for the future," I saw for myself in a sicha where The Rebbe says that that is not necessarily true, and bochurim can choose to be serious about learning and not think about the future at all.<br /><br />So so far, it appears that the view of Rabbeinu, Nisienu is that:<br /><br />The yeshiva system needs no emendation, bochurim can be serious and not think about the post yeshiva future, bochurim should learn in kollel after marriage and not make taynehs or be worried about parnassa, and bochurim generally don't need to go to college.<br /><br />...Feivel ben Mishaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619610462399086395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-27592520201585486832011-02-09T19:43:33.993-06:002011-02-09T19:43:33.993-06:00Feivel: Did I say bochurim should go to college? I...Feivel: Did I say bochurim should go to college? I said bochurim should have a plan for the future.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-59246750070853023402011-02-09T19:22:04.638-06:002011-02-09T19:22:04.638-06:00A career in academia isn't something you do wh...A career in academia isn't something you do while waiting for a more lucrative option to come up.Anon: I think you're wrongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-36836693227049054142011-02-09T16:27:32.196-06:002011-02-09T16:27:32.196-06:00The Rebbe approved for some to go to University, i...The Rebbe approved for some to go to University, in a place with practically no religious Jews, with the intent to pursue a career in acadamia. However, he advised those people to consider future and more lucrative career opportunites, if the moment arrives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-37442355382127596702011-02-09T08:15:15.368-06:002011-02-09T08:15:15.368-06:00TRS: Just because The Rebbe told certain individua...TRS: Just because The Rebbe told certain individuals to go to college, or stay in college, does not mean that The Rebbe wanted the bochurim in general to go to college.<br /><br />e: I don't see that. I know many people that didn't go to college that make a living. Maybe there are other determining factors... like insisting on living in Crown Heights even though there is nothing worthwhile for them to do there. What we need is an old fashioned agricultural colony!Feivel ben Mishaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619610462399086395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-58155856588441561602011-02-08T19:33:42.141-06:002011-02-08T19:33:42.141-06:00Feivel: And all the people who the Rebbe told to s...Feivel: And all the people who the Rebbe told to stay in college...?<br /><br />e: Obviously, we are not worthy...Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-770644123046315262011-02-08T19:19:10.794-06:002011-02-08T19:19:10.794-06:00And if your fleishige eigen tell you that people w...And if your fleishige eigen tell you that people who have education make a living and people who don't, don't, then you need to learn more chassidus and open your eyes.ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04376537400767851942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-29197637886746026572011-02-08T11:53:54.709-06:002011-02-08T11:53:54.709-06:00As e pointed out (but did not agree with) the fact...As e pointed out (but did not agree with) the fact that The Rebbe founded vocational schools or allowed Lubavitch schools to have secular education studies is not proof that that is the ideal. There is a section in Likkutei Dibburim where the FR states clearly that the absolute best preparation for life (wether it be rabbinical or job oriented) is a classic yeshiva education without any secular studies incorporated into the curriculum. <br /><br />Furthermore, The Rebbe said bochurim should just sit and learn in Tomchei Tememim and need not give thought to where their sustenance will come from later. <br /><br />The Rebbe Rashab also spoke about living life chassidically and l'maala min hateva and your sustenance will come from l'maala min hateva.<br /><br />In response to the tayneh that learning in Kollel would be bad for a yungerman's parnasa, and it would be better to go to college, The Rebbe pointed out that Hashem has many ways to give parnassa and he can figure out a way to give you a parnassa even if you don't have a college degree. <br /><br />So the problem is clearly NOT the educational structure of Lubavitcher Yeshivos (except for the fact that maybe some of them takke DO have secular studies.Feivel ben Mishaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619610462399086395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-6934098395884045772011-02-07T19:42:07.735-06:002011-02-07T19:42:07.735-06:00Is every Jew the same?Is every Jew the same?Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-4625453846677214132011-02-07T17:29:01.789-06:002011-02-07T17:29:01.789-06:00"Sure, there's one Rebbe, but that Rebbe ..."Sure, there's one Rebbe, but that Rebbe was smart enough to know that everyone is not the same."<br /><br />No he wasn't. He wanted to make everyone into a Lubavitcher.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-43689871323925129972011-02-06T14:13:43.634-06:002011-02-06T14:13:43.634-06:00when there are deep waters, ask Hashem for mercy, ...when there are deep waters, ask Hashem for mercy, and He'll throw you a rope...Yossihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10568022382495343458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-24767747056341075782011-02-02T22:44:40.977-06:002011-02-02T22:44:40.977-06:00Hmmm, there are deep waters here.Hmmm, there are deep waters here.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.com