tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post1871218820659364948..comments2023-10-23T10:15:44.618-05:00Comments on The Real Shliach: J. Immanuel...Education (Warning, pretension ahead)Just like a guyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-166087825999944152008-03-07T15:38:00.000-06:002008-03-07T15:38:00.000-06:00What is the goal of a Lubavitch school? I have no ...What is the goal of a Lubavitch school? I have no problem with english, math, social studies, and history, but I do feel that there should be a feeling in the school that there is a goal. In Lubavitch, and Judaism in general, we have a big problem with kids not wanting to do the right thing. If we don't try and make everyone do the right thing, whatever that right thing is, then is there any hope?Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-86050135967446743602008-03-07T12:06:00.000-06:002008-03-07T12:06:00.000-06:00Well, maybe I'm a skeptic, but its the same idea i...Well, maybe I'm a skeptic, but its the same idea in my opinion as training every one in a given high school to be a star basketball player or a doctor. Only one out of a thousand (or so) can actually do this, so why waste people's time on a pipe dream. <BR/><BR/>Jobs are more complex nowadays (i.e. all the good paying push-button jobs have gone to Mexico or China or Djibouti) - even a shliach needs to have excellent writing and math skills. I would like to see a Yeshiva - and I know that YHSTC does a good job with this - that emphasizes those skills just as much as learning Gemara or Maamarim or the like. <BR/><BR/>It just worries me sometimes to see my three year old son who is going to be in a cheder/yeshiva system that does not emphasize the needed writing and math skills to be successful in a "regular" job. Maybe he'll want to be a shliach, who knows, but until we get Obamacare I'm going to be pushing for a lifestyle where he can support his family and not worry about where the next paycheck is or is not coming from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-19023962547355551222008-03-07T11:04:00.000-06:002008-03-07T11:04:00.000-06:00Thanks cheerio, and yes, I agree, doing the Rebbe'...Thanks cheerio, and yes, I agree, doing the Rebbe's Shlichus is the intent here, which presumably makes one a Shliach. To Anon, I agree that there aren't enough positions for Shluchim nowadays. So firstly, working for a Shliach is also Shlichus, and secondly, as I wrote, only one guy out of a thousand is expected to fulfill this dream; but again, that's only if everyone has that dream in the first place. To prepare people for "regular" jobs is fine, but leave that for after Yeshiva; let idealism be the order of the day for Bochurim.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-80405678204052266442008-03-07T08:13:00.000-06:002008-03-07T08:13:00.000-06:00I disagree with this post. During most of the Reb...I disagree with this post. During most of the Rebbe's tenure there were more positions open than shluchim to fill them. Today the situation is the opposite. There are almost no "territories" left for which there is not a shliach needed. And once a shliach "retires" one of his sons or sons-in-law will most likely take over that position. <BR/><BR/>One has to live in reality, and the reality is that most of the bocherim today will not be shluchim in the traditional sense, and therefore they must be directed into a meaningful path to still be a shliach in the sense that cheerio mentioned above. <BR/><BR/>That means that a yeshiva's main job should be to provide the skills necessary for a bocher to go to a university (once married)or trade school to gain a practical skill in which to earn parnassah to support whatever kehillah he lives in. <BR/><BR/>It is an absolute shanda for a Jew to live on welfare and handouts. This is not as big a problem for Chabad as it is for other derechs, but a community will not survive when there are far more moochers than machers. Every frum Jew should be a macher in some sense, whether it is maching neshamas and/or maching parnassas to support that endeavour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-51016637834345668682008-03-07T00:04:00.000-06:002008-03-07T00:04:00.000-06:00i would agree with every thing you've said, except...i would agree with every thing you've said, except i would change the wording a little bit. rather than everyone wanting to be a shliach, can't everyone want to fulfill the rebbe's shlichus?<BR/>you don't have to be a shliach to fulfill the rebbe's shlichus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com