tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post8364218334945629077..comments2023-10-23T10:15:44.618-05:00Comments on The Real Shliach: Kabbalos Ol just doesn't cut itJust like a guyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-51579464846155571522009-03-27T14:24:00.000-05:002009-03-27T14:24:00.000-05:00Indeed that is true.Indeed that is true.le7https://www.blogger.com/profile/08982516647753962603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-77794242430225038142009-03-27T09:56:00.000-05:002009-03-27T09:56:00.000-05:00Modeh: Have you ever been to a farbie? You don't p...Modeh: Have you ever been to a farbie? You don't pour down dangerous amounts of vodka in order to appreciate a maamar. You sit down with a chavrusa or mashpia and work hard to appreciate a maamar. The purpose of a farbrengen is to inspire us in our avoda. Some people do that through listening, some through eating, some through drinking. The problem with girl farbies, if I believe what I'm told, is that generally they fail to inspire people's avoda.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-8119339038002475342009-03-27T09:29:00.000-05:002009-03-27T09:29:00.000-05:00Let's be feminist. Girls are entitled to pour down...Let's be feminist. Girls are entitled to pour down dangerous amounts of Vodka in order to put themselves in a state of mind conducive to appreciating chassidus just as much as boys are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-53302829478410595792009-03-26T22:06:00.000-05:002009-03-26T22:06:00.000-05:00Wicked it totally right about the girl farby thang...Wicked it totally right about the girl farby thang.le7https://www.blogger.com/profile/08982516647753962603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-41153537946337033982009-03-26T21:57:00.001-05:002009-03-26T21:57:00.001-05:00Oh right-boy farbies are a billion times better.Oh right-boy farbies are a billion times better.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-64598668455199615042009-03-26T21:57:00.000-05:002009-03-26T21:57:00.000-05:00Wicked: Yeah, what about girl farbies?Wicked: Yeah, what about girl farbies?Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-798069888085901102009-03-26T21:19:00.000-05:002009-03-26T21:19:00.000-05:00Why shouldn't girls farbreng? Especially snagesses...Why shouldn't girls farbreng? Especially snagesses who support deadbeat husbands. (not anyone here, just mentioning)<BR/><BR/>CA: Your number one is actually the right answer. There is a mitzvas asei of achilas matza. There are two opinions in chullin as to what constitutes achila in the technical sense. One is hana'a of taste and the the other, more accepted one, is hana'as garon -- the sensation of swallowing. Therefore to perform 3 correctly l'chol ha'deios -- which is obviously our job when eating the matza -- we have to think about your so-called "chitzoniyus" namely the taste and the sensation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-35064737573863115502009-03-26T21:13:00.000-05:002009-03-26T21:13:00.000-05:00Girl farbrengens? Ma ze shtuyot?Girl farbrengens? Ma ze shtuyot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-58418726675833019352009-03-26T20:06:00.000-05:002009-03-26T20:06:00.000-05:00Unless they are farbrengens for girls.Unless they are farbrengens for girls.Anarchist Chossidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129716759837282565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-49492831467400589842009-03-26T18:52:00.000-05:002009-03-26T18:52:00.000-05:00Girls don't belong at farbrengens!Girls don't belong at farbrengens!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-36105545029820426232009-03-26T00:42:00.000-05:002009-03-26T00:42:00.000-05:00Hey, always glad to be of service.Hey, always glad to be of service.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-34602456286329819552009-03-25T23:49:00.000-05:002009-03-25T23:49:00.000-05:00reading a blog, and feeling like i'm at a farbreng...reading a blog, and feeling like i'm at a farbrengen...<BR/>thanks not only to TRS, but to all you commentors, as well.Cheeriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12150227399518692959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-79953234231916695602009-03-25T20:50:00.000-05:002009-03-25T20:50:00.000-05:00Oh yes, certainly.Oh yes, certainly.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-69939493408375459912009-03-25T20:13:00.000-05:002009-03-25T20:13:00.000-05:00Well, I wasn’t really asking, clarifying my questi...Well, I wasn’t really asking, clarifying my questions. I think what you were talking about touches not only on the question of long-term avoida but also short-term experience.<BR/><BR/>Or not.Anarchist Chossidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129716759837282565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-56299201520799027052009-03-25T17:57:00.000-05:002009-03-25T17:57:00.000-05:00CA: don't ask me, ask a mashpia. I completely fail...CA: don't ask me, ask a mashpia. I completely fail to see the connection between this topic and 11 day. <BR/><BR/>e: sounds about right.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-52730333346005054542009-03-25T16:19:00.000-05:002009-03-25T16:19:00.000-05:00Ha! That's really profound! What is the difference...Ha! That's really profound! What <I>is</I> the difference between prost and poshut? One is "simple" in Hebrew while the other is "simple" is Russian.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps prust is ordinary, and poshut is uncomplicated.ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04376537400767851942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-87221221137502197572009-03-25T15:34:00.000-05:002009-03-25T15:34:00.000-05:00You are sitting at the seider, eating matza. What ...You are sitting at the seider, eating matza. What are you thinking about?<BR/><BR/>1) Something chitzoiniusdik (how the matza tastes, the fact that it’s a Jewish tradition, connection between generations, etc. — in other words, not Eibeshter in any way).<BR/><BR/>2) All the things that Chassidus says about matzah. Bittul. Keilim vs. oirois, source of keilim — from lifnei ha’tzimtzum. All the oiros in the Atzilus. Whatever.<BR/><BR/>3) I am doing this mitzva, because Eibeshter wants me to eat matzah during the seider on Peisach.<BR/><BR/>Which approach is more appropriate? What is 2) lacking? What is 3) lacking? Is it possible to combine 2) and 3)?<BR/><BR/>Is there a difference between poshuteh Yid and prosteh Yid? :)Anarchist Chossidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129716759837282565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-9071611143036933362009-03-25T13:27:00.000-05:002009-03-25T13:27:00.000-05:00CA: obviously mitzvas anashim melumdah is not anah...CA: obviously mitzvas anashim melumdah is not anah nesiv malkah, nor is it kabbalos ol. However, when a person has a crisis of some sort, and nevertheless continues doing mitzvos-that can be kabbalos ol. <BR/><BR/>There's a difference between a simple person and a poshite yid. <BR/><BR/>Interesting. <BR/><BR/>Huh? To what are you referring? <BR/><BR/>Thanks.Just like a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680468025321981540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-87010746259018813742009-03-25T11:35:00.001-05:002009-03-25T11:35:00.001-05:00Oh yeah, I forgot.Good job.Oh yeah, I forgot.<BR/><BR/>Good job.Anarchist Chossidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129716759837282565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-37372064867509649612009-03-25T11:35:00.000-05:002009-03-25T11:35:00.000-05:00That’s a great ma’amor. One of my favorites, reall...That’s a great ma’amor. One of my favorites, really. Now I think I actually need to learn it again, after I finish U’Mikneh Rav (interesting coincidence).<BR/><BR/>I don’t think a person who does mitzvos because he was accustomed to doing them is really “anah nesiv malkah”. He hasn’t chosen the King. So, is this really kabbalos ol?<BR/><BR/>I also think that maybe the “simple person” is, forgive me language, an archetype. A tzaddik can also be the “simple person”. E.g., Alter Rebbe refusing to eat treif in prison. Or Baal Shem Tov with that story in Istanbul and the couple that was destined to be childless.<BR/><BR/>One person once asked me: “If the ultimate reason for creation of the world is dira b’tachtonim, then why learn about Atzilus and OE"S?” I think the answer is: if you are making a building into a palace of the king, you need to put the king’s colors in the building. In order for a building to become a palace, you need to make it royal. But don’t think for a second that the colors themselves matter anything.<BR/><BR/>No? This is important to me in light of the annual practice of sitting at the seider, waiting for some “experience” or “deeper meaning” from eating matza.Anarchist Chossidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129716759837282565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-52065314943629968592009-03-25T10:57:00.000-05:002009-03-25T10:57:00.000-05:00le7: that's right. When it comes to e-baiting I'll...le7: that's right. When it comes to e-baiting I'll gladly stand up and be counted as a chosid.<BR/>TRS: And they declared war on language-snobbery (diqDHUQ) at about the same time. Otherwise you would have called me on amei ha'aretz d'oraisa.Yitzchakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540358059656127222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-51389777197046178752009-03-25T10:51:00.000-05:002009-03-25T10:51:00.000-05:00Ah well whatever...Ah well whatever...le7https://www.blogger.com/profile/08982516647753962603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-34999807344828574172009-03-25T10:50:00.000-05:002009-03-25T10:50:00.000-05:00You said the girls are more chassidish than the bo...You said the girls are more chassidish than the boys. When you average me into the "boys" turns out you're not saying much.Yitzchakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540358059656127222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-90684619282849260832009-03-25T10:47:00.000-05:002009-03-25T10:47:00.000-05:00What does that have to do with anything?What does that have to do with anything?le7https://www.blogger.com/profile/08982516647753962603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1956851062928470828.post-89553367256543317872009-03-25T10:46:00.000-05:002009-03-25T10:46:00.000-05:00TRS: yes, centuries. 1.25 of them as a conservativ...TRS: yes, centuries. 1.25 of them as a conservative estimate.<BR/>le7: your forgetting that the officially appointed "resident litvak" is a boy.Yitzchakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540358059656127222noreply@blogger.com