Saturday, January 2, 2010

JM Blogger Awards: The Real Shliach

Best Album: Taamu – Benny Friedman. Not even close. This album is great for a couple reasons, notably because Benny’s voice is extraordinary (have any one else singing most of these songs and they’re “nice”, but not brilliant) and the song selection is so good (have Benny sing any other songs and his star does not shine so brightly…). It’s this truly superb combination of Benny’s voice and the album’s composition that really blew me away, and that made this my album of the year. Heck, has there ever been another album that referenced Likkutei Sichos in the liner notes? Awesome!

Best Song: Yaavducha – Benny Friedman. Sure, this song is on Benny’s album, and it’s mainly sung by him, but its true genius lies in the collaborative effort that produced it. The Marcus Brothers have really nice voices, and hearing them together with Benny is a treat. Add to that this song, which is like a combo Carlebach on acid without the stress, and you’ve got a sure-fire winner. Seriously, I could listen to this song all day (I’ve done it a couple time) and not get sick- it’s sweeter and cuter than the sweetest and cutest (insert one of several Shlomo lines here), with another tang to keep it fresh for a long time.

Best Debut Album: Bezras Hashem – Beri Weber. Does this even make sense? How can it be that the best album of the year, the first album that the artist ever made, is not the debut album of the year? My only possibly excuse is that I’ve been listening to Benny sing for so long (we did both grow up in Minnesota) and so feel that he’s really not so new at all. Besides, I listened to Beri’s album obsessively until Taamu came out, and it’s really excellent. Maybe not so incredibly polished, but the song selection is really nice, especially the slow ones.

Best arrangement: No Lyrics (Benny Friedman) – Ian Freitor. Can there be any question? The instant kumzitz classic for the next decade.

Best Yiddish Song: Yiddish Medley – Avraham Fried. Yes, I loved Benny’s Emes, and the combo of Rabbi Manis Friedman and Lipa Schmeltzer is like a dream come true, but there’s something about a Chabad Niggun that really affects a person, really makes them think about what’s going on, where they’re coming from and where they’re headed to. The opener was of course redone several years ago by 8th Day, and that was nice, but the original Lubavitch melody really takes you places.

Best Concert DVD: Avraham Fried – Live in Israel. If Avraham Fried were to never make another album (not that I’m Ch”V suggesting something like that), I think this concert would be a fine retrospective of his long and distinguished career. Working through all the classics, with much higher sound quality than the originals, this album also showcases several new (for Avremel) songs, notably Rak Tefila, Unesane Tokef, and the truly beautiful and moving Mishehu Holech Tamid Iti. There’s also the classic Ribbono Shel Olam in a duet with Dudu Fisher, which shows much the same thing as Avremel’s duets with Yitzchok Meir Helfgot showed at Hasc a couple years back- he may not be a chazzan, but he’s still got one of the best voices in Jewish music.

JM Blogger Awards: The Real Shliach

187 comments:

e said...

a bit heavy on the benny praise and general friedman family fandom, no?

The Real Shliach said...

Don't tell anyone, but I'm trying to score tickets to his next concert...

Dovid said...

*In the interest of full disclosure, TRS has strong ties to Minnesota and the Friedman clan.*

The Real Shliach said...

Something like that.

e said...

trs: My lips are sealed.

The Real Shliach said...

Many thanks

Crawling Axe said...

What’re your ties to Friedman clan? Avraham Fried is my NO rabbi’s brother-in-law. In fact, the only engagement party I’ve ever been to was upstairs in his house.

The Real Shliach said...

I'm (very) close to about seven of Manis's kids...

Anonymous said...

Why is it that if you know someone you can't say their music is good? If someone asks Avremels brother if he likes Avraham Fried is he gonna be called biased by saying he is one of the top singers in Jewish music? OH, you are his brother? If Joe Montana's brother would say Joe was one of the best QB's in nfl history they will say "oh you are only saying that because you are his brother"

Get real, good is good!!

Crawling Axe said...

Someone can say that he likes something, but if he is biased, his opinion is of less use to everyone else.

Crawling Axe said...

I also wonder how much use is the opinion of someone who thinks that taste is relative.

Hmm... hmm...

The Real Shliach said...

Anon: Yup.

CA: Sure, if you want to know to know your opinion, listen yourself. If you want to know my opinion, read it. I don't claim to be right, only to know my own mind.

Crawling Axe said...

Knowing one's mind is indeed a rare and useful skill. But I thought you knew the mind of G-d?

The Real Shliach said...

You're saying, I should have written not my picks but G-d's picks?

Crawling Axe said...

That was not the original intent of my remark, but now that you mention it, it would probably be very useful indeed.

The Real Shliach said...

What was your original intent?

Crawling Axe said...

To express amazement at your having mastered not just one difficult skill but two.

Anyway, I think reviewer's having specific tastes is actually useful for the reader. That way there is a way to associate with the reviewer, who is more of a personality rather than a blank slate.

The Real Shliach said...

Which are these two skills that I've mastered?

Can there be a reviewer without personal opinion? Otherwise it's just a game recap, a boxscore, not commentary.

Crawling Axe said...

Knowing both one's mind and that of G-d. All jokes aside, the first is quite rare.

Well, some reviewers tend to present themselves as rather dispassionate and objective. While others have very obvious likes and dislikes sticking out immediately.

The Real Shliach said...

And the second impossible.

I suppose that's the difference between fact and commentary. One of the problems that has plagued humanity throughout its many troubled years is its confusion of the two.

Crawling Axe said...

About some things not so. I am about to learn my daily Rambam...

Isn't a fact merely a personal interpretation of reality? Do we not know the reality only through our minds?

Isn't interpretation a statement of the objective fact about one's state of mind?

The Real Shliach said...

Fact is often a personal interpretation representation of reality, but not always. For example, it is a fact that the New York Giants did not make the playoffs this year, and the Green Bay Packers did. No matter how a person interprets this, it must be true.

Sometimes.

Crawling Axe said...

But this "fact", as you call it, is only a product of your mind (and mine, and that of many other people) interpreting reality, i.e., the signals that it receives through the cranial nerves. In other word, when I say "Giants never won a single game", I am saying: "My brain tells me that Giants never won a single game." I am reporting some information about the internal state of my brain, a product of its neurons' analysis of the incoming information.

When I say "I like Avram Fried more than Matisyahu", I am doing something not much different.

The Real Shliach said...

But if everyone (and I mean everyone) says it is a fact, then is it not a fact? If G-d says it is a fact, then is it not a fact?

The difference lies in the percentage of people who hold one way or the other.

Crawling Axe said...

Nope, truth is not a subject to vox populi. Ad numerum is a fallacy.

G-d says? But it is merely your mind telling you that G-d says so, is it not?

How indeed do we draw the distinction between information derived from the work of one set of neurons (that we call emotion) and that derived from that of another (that we call logic)?

The Real Shliach said...

True.

Not if G-d tells me that what he tells me is correct.

Nu?

Crawling Axe said...

But it is indeed only your brain telling you that G-d tells you. Is it not?

I am still thinking over it... I think just like there are sensory modalities, there may be informational modalities.

But I've met people who apparently do not think at all. They feel. An idea is right or wrong to them if it feels right or feels wrong. Some of these people, for instance, like Chassidus. But they like it for its emotional beauty; they are not interested intellectually in its ideas like one is interested in Gemara.

The Real Shliach said...

And so ad infinitum.

You could write your doctoral thesis on this.

I'm glad you've finally discovered the female of the human species.

Crawling Axe said...

Perhaps not.

I could. If I was pursuing Ph.D. in Psychology or Philosophy or some similar poppycock.

Not all females use feelings instead of logic. And not all males have the access to analytical and logical thinking. I have found in my experience that it is a matter of education. Most females whom I work with display similar thinking processes and methods to those of males. (In fact, all three members of my dissertation committee are women.) Even though in interpersonal relationships they are still feminine.

The Real Shliach said...

No?

Ahh.

Hmm.

(how's that for a scintillating comment?)

Crawling Axe said...

Not bad.

The Real Shliach said...

Thanks. I try.

Nemo said...

Benny Friedman is a god!

The Real Shliach said...

But he's not TRG!

Cheerio said...

who's trg?
also, is this album (taamu, not the b.w. one. saw one of his music videos and my brain almost melted) on my friend's ipod?

The Real Shliach said...

Who is TRG? You pray to him sometimes.

I doubt it.

Crawling Axe said...

Perhaps he is the creator of a certain mode in Windows 7.

The Real Shliach said...

Our theology teaches that he is the creator of all modes in Windows, and much else besides.

Crawling Axe said...

Even Windows before NT? Surely Vilna Gaon would disagree.

The Real Shliach said...

The Vilna Gaon would have a problem with any item which came out of the outhouse that is Redmond.

Crawling Axe said...

I can definitely see Vilna Gaon as an Apple user. No doubt about it.

The Real Shliach said...

That's right, anyone with even the smallest amount of brains would use it, al achas kama v'kama...

Crawling Axe said...

I don’t know. Rebbe Rashab hated socialism.

The Real Shliach said...

So does Uncle Steve.

Crawling Axe said...

I am reminded of this picture.

Crawling Axe said...

Sorry, wrong picture (same FB wall). this picture.

The Real Shliach said...

The first wasn't just as apropos?

Crawling Axe said...

Are you saying the second one was not apropos?

At least it wasn’t one of the hogs killed by my friend in a Louisiana forest.

The Real Shliach said...

Shall we call it a tie?

Right, because that would be very bad indeed.

Crawling Axe said...

Ah, I found a good link to the topic. Apple Gestapo.

Speaking of socialism, both Apple and Obama can learn a lot regarding commercials and propaganda from the Soviet Union. One thing the Soviets excelled at was propaganda imagery driving the point home. Just watch this vide.

The Real Shliach said...

Uncle Steve is benevolent to his grateful subjects.

Which part was I supposed to watch there, the four horsemen of the apocalypse (wait, I thought the Soviets didn't believe in religion?) riding out of the mushroom cloud, or the guy getting dragged out of his airplane, or the angst-ridden teenagers, or the four horsemen of the apocalypse riding back into the nuclear sun?

Crawling Axe said...

The first one. The imagery clearly tells you: this movie is about socialism.

Soviets didn’t believe in religion? Who told you that? They simply replaced Yoshkaism with its provincial miracle-making in front of some drunken fishermen to Marxism-Leninism with miracle-making on the level of one sixth of the world’s surface.

The Real Shliach said...

Ahh. What do the four horsemen of the apocalypse represent in Soviet theology?

Crawling Axe said...

“There is no revolution without terror.”

The scene with the airplane, by the way, is one of the most famous scenes in the Soviet cinematography. At least that song is. It was adapted to a bunch of American clips; e.g.

The Real Shliach said...

No wonder Obama is doing so poorly.

is it just me, or is it ridiculous to think that a guy could run nearly as fast as a motorcycle?

Crawling Axe said...

Well, the guy is a robot sent from the future to kill his own grandfather (or something like that), but, yes, I would agree.

The Real Shliach said...

Robots have grandfathers?

Crawling Axe said...

I haven’t seen the movie in a while. In general, I was never such a big fan of the whole series.

The Real Shliach said...

Forgive my ignorance please, but which movie is this?

Crawling Axe said...

Imagine if this was an Obama ad?

The Real Shliach said...

Imagine if I understood Russian...

Crawling Axe said...

Terminator. Since the governor of California is the good guy, I’d say II or III. I don’t even think I watched III (along with Titanic).

They should have Goyim Studies in yeshivos. Like in Hogwarts.

Crawling Axe said...

Russian doesn’t really matter.

By the way, Romans were also big on imagery. That and lack of articles in their language. Now wonder Russians consider Moscow the Third Rome.

Crawling Axe said...

−w

The Real Shliach said...

Ahh. Now I know.

The difference is that when wizards and witches study muggles, they do so without lusting to be muggles.

I could understand wanting to be Rome if you got to live on the Mediterranean...

Crawling Axe said...

What about Ron’s father? Anyway, yes, it’s a problem.

I wonder if there is a Jewish version of a squib...

Are you saying there is no reason to want to be Rome if you live in the cold steppes of Eastern Europe?

The Real Shliach said...

He wants to incorporate what they have into the wizarding world, not become one himself. He's sort of like Shmuelie Boteach in that sense- they're both bumbling, have lots of kids...

Good question.

Do you want to wear a toga all day on the cold steppes of Western Asia?

Crawling Axe said...

Well, modernishe bochurim who wear jeans also don’t want to become complete goyim. They just want to wear jeans.

In summer, why not? Otherwise, they could wear it under other clothes, or over them, like we wear tzitzis or tallis in winter.

There is no such thing as Western Asia. It’s Eastern Europe all the way to Far East. The moment where your alphabet stops having 33 letters and starts having 40,000 characters, you’ve made a quantum leap.

The Real Shliach said...

They start with wanting to wear jeans and...

Good point. On the other hand, is their any good native-grown Russian wine?

That's just nationalism speaking.

Crawling Axe said...

...they end up listening to DeScribe?

There is some excellent home-grown Russian wheat wine.

If my nationalism was speaking, I would say my country’s borders are from Alexandria to Baghdad to Aleppo.

The Real Shliach said...

If only that was the worst of their sins.

(snort!)

I thought you were Ukrainian?

Crawling Axe said...

What’s their worst sin?

What are you saying? Ich bin nisht kein Fonke.

The Real Shliach said...

Unlawful fornication.

Me neither, but that doesn't change any facts.

Crawling Axe said...

Hostu gehalten a licht?

I’d say it changes everything. G-dly soul is not chopped liver. Nor is it vinaigrette.

The Real Shliach said...

English?

How about a nice borscht?

Crawling Axe said...

Were you holding a candle?

I like me some nice Jewish borsch. No Ukrainian can cook a borsch like they cook in my family.

Crawling Axe said...

Besides, if I were to chose a goyish nationality for myself, it’d be Russian, not Ukrainian.

The Real Shliach said...

You mean, did I view this alleged intercourse with mine own eyes?

You can serve it at your next simcha.

What's wrong with American?

Dovid said...

Wow, the real TRS is back. Well at least he's back in the comments arena. Will we also be getting a post a day again?

Crawling Axe said...

(Oh, how nice! A false friend I didn’t know about.)

Yes, although apparently that expression in English means something else (hence the above parenthesis).

I would rather serve some fine Russian wheat wine. Or some kosher kvas, if I can find it. (Maybe I’ll brew it myself. From pas Yisroel black bread.)

What’s wrong with American? Where do I start?.. Well, regardless, for me it’s wrong because I am not an American. Not ethnically (I am already member of one tribe), not culturally, barely linguistically and for sure not ecumenically (does anyone even get that joke anymore?).

Crawling Axe said...

Plus, I only have a Green Card.

The Real Shliach said...

Dovid: The Real The Real Shliach? It has a nice ring to it. And no, the probability of a post a day is very low, unless someone starts paying me to do it of course.

CA: False Friend?

Ahh, now I get it. And no, I never saw this with my eyes. Like any decent man, I averted them.

As far as I can tell, "Wheat Wine" refers to a type of beer- is Russia renowned for this?

Well, as soon as you get citizenship we'll talk.

Crawling Axe said...

False friend is a word or an expression that sounds similiar or looks similar or is a similar expression but means different things. There are some examples here (there is an even better example in Russian, which trips up many plumbers who come from the Motherland to this fine country, but it’s not for a public forum).

Then how do you know? Do you rely on the word of gossip?

A beer is not a whine. It’s a brew. I am referring to vodka. Although I do like Russian beer (well, I only know Baltica), the only brew Russia is really renowned for is kvas.

Actually, I was rather hoping to become a citizen through marriage. (In fact, that is one of the main purposes.) But what will that change? I will still remain a Jew, or a Russian in a worst case scenario.

Crawling Axe said...

Also, beer is not made from wheat, is it?

The Real Shliach said...

Ahh.

I have my sources.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/60

Nevertheless, my point remains. How can Russia possibly be the next Rome when there is no proper wine there?

Do people you're going out with know that your interest in them is restricted to their nationality?

Crawling Axe said...

Russia has excellent wheat. It was one of the things that attracted Hitler, y"sh.

Interesting. Anyway, who knew that jeans were sitting on top of such slippery slope.

I declare it loudly on my first date. Also, it’s not “exclusively”.

Crawling Axe said...

I mean, not “restricted”.

Crawling Axe said...

Interesting. Well, vodka was called “Genoese wheat wine” in the times of Ivan the Terrible. When the authors of Beeradvocate build the likes of Basil’s Cathedral, I’ll consider their opinion on beer.

The Real Shliach said...

But they have no grapes, which is why Mussolini never bothered invading.

I did.

Well, as long as everything's up front, I don't see that there can be any harm in it.

The Real Shliach said...

What does the one have to do with the other? That's like saying that because the Twin Towers were destroyed in my lifetime I'm an expert on terrorism.

Crawling Axe said...

LOL. But, actually, Mussolini did invade. His soldiers were on one of the flanks of Paulus’s army at Stalingrad (Romanians were on the other side). Russians plowed through the flanks, encircled the 6th army, prevented Mainstein from breaking through to rescue it and captured 300,000 Nazi soldiers at Stalingrad turning the tide of the war. That was the extent of Mussolini’s involvement in the Great Patriotic War.

It’s not true that Russia has no wines. There are some excellent wines in Caucasus region. Most of the best ones belong to Georgia (which makes some excellent wine, especially, cognac), but some also belong to Russians. In fact, during the war in which the Shamil of the famous niggun was captures, those wines were captures along with him.

When Crimea was part of Russia, its wines also belonged to it (there is Crimean wine).

I don’t know if there are any wines in Ural mountains. It may be too cold there. I’ve heard there is some uranium though.

Well, Ivan the Terrible knew both his strong alcoholic drinks and his architecture. He is also know to have blinded the architect of Basil’s Cathedral so that no such other thing is ever produced. It is not clear whether he did anything to the Genoese sailors who introduced vodka to Russia.

Crawling Axe said...

Anyway, if being a heir of Roman Empire was measure in wine, then France would be it. In fact, however, its measured in two things: 1) military prowess/political greatness (which is why Germany called itself HRE, despite its preference to beer), 2) Christian culture (according to Eastern Orthodox church, Byzantine branch of Christianity is the true branch of Roman Christianity, since Rome at the time was not Roman but in fact barbarian; and, of course, the same culture and religion spread to Russia; it also spread to Bulgaria, but Bulgarians turned out to be somewhat losers and a general disappointment, what with that story with Basil and blinding of 99 out of 100 men).

The Real Shliach said...

Your grasp of history is excellent-I stand in humble obeisance.

Dovid said...

mmmm, uranium wine. Nothing hits the spot like wine made from radioactive grapes!

The Real Shliach said...

I can arrange for some for you for a small fee.

Dovid said...

Its obvious to me that Russia is the heir of the Roman Empire. Half the Russians I know are named Roman.

Crawling Axe said...

Only certain parts of history. I remain sadly ignorant in all those areas which are not interesting to me and even more sadly dilettante in those that are.

Crawling Axe said...

And the other half are named Mikhail and Alexander?

The Real Shliach said...

Dovid: And are they also heirs of Alexander the Great's empire?

CA: :)

Dovid said...

Is nothing free? First I can't have daily posts without paying up and now you even deny me the most basic human necessity of radioactive wine until I pay a "small" fee.

Dovid said...

Yup exactly, the other half is Alexander. Must be they have inherited Rome and Greece.

The Real Shliach said...

Whoever said anything in life was free?

Macedonia.

Dovid said...

craigslist?

The Real Shliach said...

So how do you explain the dresser and bookcase we bought on there?

Dovid said...

Easy- they never said everything would be free.

The Real Shliach said...

Touché

Crawling Axe said...

Actually, large part of Russian language is composed of Greek and Latin (and its alphabet is derived from Greek).

Crawling Axe said...

Some things on Craigslist are free. Like ads.

Crawling Axe said...

Also, what happened to Q/A Thursday sessions? Even the people of my acquaintance who hated every single post of this blog still liked those.

The Real Shliach said...

Anything that is won without labor, that is free of blood, sweat, toil, and tears, is hardly worthy of mention.

Crawling Axe said...

Are you saying that children born with the assistance of epidurals and C-sections are not even worthy of being mentioned?

The Real Shliach said...

A: you mean "ask TRS"?

B: who hates every single post of this here blog?

C: you think a c-section, or even an epidural, is easy?

Crawling Axe said...

A. Yes.
B. Nobody who is worthy of being mentioned (unless a point is being made).
C. Well, with considerably less blood, sweat and other bodily fluids. I think that's one of the main reasons people do it (despite the potential problems for the child).

Dovid said...

OK I'll give you sweat in exchange for the radioactive wine. I might throw in some blood, toil, or tears but definitely not money.

The Real Shliach said...

CA: A: If you're lucky, I'll write one tonight. If you're even luckier, I won't.

B: anyone I know?

C: you talking about ceasarian sections or epidurals? Because there's a great difference between the two.

Dovid: what would I do with your sweat? (besides putting it in the voodoo doll I'm making in your likeness, of course)

Crawling Axe said...

A. You should definitely do it. I even thought of a question while drinking beer.

B. Nope. Not even someone your friends know.

C. Well, both. I know there is a difference (and difference in the toll on blood, sweat, etc.).

D. You could put it in your kerosene lamp.

Dovid said...

Kerosene lamps can run on sweat? pretty neat TRS, eh? we got a deal? but you pay for shipping.

Crawling Axe said...

You need to tweak them a bit.

The Real Shliach said...

A: nu?

B: and yet I am honored that I am reviled by those who know not even my real name.

C: Quite.

D: you're assuming I have a kerosene lamp.

Dovid: i'm not paying to ship you across the country!

Crawling Axe said...

A. Are you supposed to eat that piece of lime you put in a bottle of Corona?

D. Now I know what present to give you guys. Forget the hugely heavy marble table.

Dovid said...

drats

The Real Shliach said...

A: nice.

B: a voodoo doll maker?

Crawling Axe said...

No, a kerosene lamp that your wife can use while spinning you scarfs at night.

The Real Shliach said...

Ahh.

Dovid said...

lol, and I can get the voodoo doll making kit.

The Real Shliach said...

I can't wait for both your presents (and presence).

Anonymous said...

Hello! Wonderful idea, but will this really work?

Crawling Axe said...

With enough effort anything can work. But the question is: should it?

e said...

aurgh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY????????????????????????????????????????

The Real Shliach said...

CA: Probably.

e: As in, why did he respond to spam?

e said...

as is why did someone program a spambot just to leave that silly comment.

The Real Shliach said...

As it says in the holy HHGTTG, knowledge of the question logically precludes knowledge of the answer, and vice-versa.

e said...

does it really say that? I beg to differ. If those silly vogons would have waited ten more minutes...

The Real Shliach said...

It does really say that.

How can you differ with the holy HHGTTG?

Yes, things would be very different.

e said...

Ok. I'll take your word for it, although I remember that it was possible, albeit highly impractical.

The Real Shliach said...

You refer to mice reading the brain or Marvin reading the brainwaves?

e said...

the former. I actually forgot about the latter.

The Real Shliach said...

Right, and at some point after they fail with all these attempts they opine what I previously quoted.

e said...

to your superior knowledge of the guide I will submit.

The Real Shliach said...

Of course then, they do get the question, but it doesn't make much sense anyway...

e said...

they do? then? with martin?

The Real Shliach said...

No, Marvin goes into the sun around Kakrafoon in Hotblack Desiato's stuntship and somehow ends up on Squornshellous Beta.

(I can't believe I just remembered all that.)

Regardless, once Arthur and Ford end up on the prehistoric earth with the prehistoric slowly evolving earthmen, they figure out the question using Scrabble. You remember?

e said...

this i remember. what do you mean the question doesn't make sense? It makes sense in base thriteen!!

The Real Shliach said...

Please explain for those of us who aren't math majors.

e said...

we're used to base 10. Computers use base 2 (binary). One could also use base 13.

http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid183_gci211501,00.html

The Real Shliach said...

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Crawling Axe said...

I think the most important fact is that a barrel holds 42 gallons. In vino veritas.

The Real Shliach said...

Wine? Snob.

Crawling Axe said...

“In wine there is truth, in beer there is strength, in water there are bacteria.”

The Real Shliach said...

What about borscht?

Crawling Axe said...

“In wine there is truth, in beer there is strength, in water there are bacteria, in borscht there are beets.”

The Real Shliach said...

Vodka?

Crawling Axe said...

OE"S.

The Real Shliach said...

Onions, endives, and salami?

Crawling Axe said...

Which one is the ikkar?

The Real Shliach said...

Onions.

Crawling Axe said...

Ha’adama.

The Real Shliach said...

What if it's raw?

Crawling Axe said...

Especially if it’s raw.

The Real Shliach said...

Meanwhile, what do you think of this:

63801927

?

Crawling Axe said...

Non primum est.

Crawling Axe said...

Non primum est.

The Real Shliach said...

Nothing more profound?

Crawling Axe said...

All good things have their limits.

The Real Shliach said...

Atzmus?

Crawling Axe said...

...is not Asiyah.

The Real Shliach said...

But it's not not asiyah either.

Crawling Axe said...

Yes it is. Why not?

The Real Shliach said...

Now you just contradicted yourself.

Crawling Axe said...

No. I said it’s not asiya. You said it’s not not asiya. I said: yes it is not asiya.

The Real Shliach said...

No, I said it's not not Asiya.

Point is, you can't say what it is or what it is not.

Crawling Axe said...

Sure I can. It’s Atzilus. It’s one with Hashem. It’s not concealing Hashem. It’s not Asiya. The whole point of the Light is that you can define it. (Well, not you, G-d. Well, you too.)

The Real Shliach said...

Who is talking about Atzilus? I'm talking about Atzmus.

Crawling Axe said...

Oh. So you are. Yes. No.

The Real Shliach said...

Ha!

Crawling Axe said...

You can’t say Atzilus does not have limits.

The Real Shliach said...

Hey, I'm not responsible for Atzilus.

Crawling Axe said...

I meant Atzmus.

The Real Shliach said...

All right. You can't say that Atzmus has or doesn't have anything.

Crawling Axe said...

Ita vero.

Dovid said...

CA- You can't say Atzmus has limits

The Real Shliach said...

CA: Exactly.

Dovid: I believe CA has acknowledged this.

e said...

CA: many moons ago, non-hebraicly inclined bloggers asked that the hebraicly inclined translate whenever they use a Hebrew phrase. I'm gonna ask you do to the same whenever you use latin--especially since google translate doesn't do latin.

Crawling Axe said...

Google translate doesn’t do latin, but Google does.

Or I could acquiesce to your request.

Or you could learn Latin. It’s very useful in Math. Let me think of a smart Latin phrase to use here.

Crawling Axe said...

Found it: draco dormiens nunquam titillandus.

The Real Shliach said...

Oh, excellent all round.

e said...

google can translate some latin.